One Mom’s Guide to Avoiding Swine Flu Naturally

by Stephanie @ Keeper of the Home on November 9, 09

in Healthy kids, Living healthy, Vaccinations

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Mireille Joseph Tuttle February 8, 2011 at 3:04 pm

Great blog! In our office, Tuttle Chiropractic, we know that getting an adjustment boosts the immune system and our patients have found that if they come in while feeling sick they get better quicker because their immune system has been stimulated. We always encourage our patients to get adjusted as much as possible at the first sign of a cold or flu to make sure that their immune system is functioning at 100% and they are able to avoid sickness.

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Jennifer Sandford November 22, 2009 at 12:11 pm

This is a fantastic post, it is the most comprehensive advice on this I’ve seen. Another resource is a guide book written by my doctor, the doctor Martha Stewart had on her show to talk about the top medical tests everyone should have, Dr. Pedre. He is an integrative practitioner, which means he works with a combo of western and alternative treatments. His ebook, the Ultimate Swine Flu Survival Guide gives all the facts on the vaccines and natural cures so everyone can make the decisions right for them. http://www.theultimateswineflusurvivalguide.com/ Good Luck and Good Health everyone!

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Lorrie November 15, 2009 at 2:06 pm

Great post. I am about 22 weeks pregnant and my mother has really been wanting me to get the vaccine. I have decided against it. We have been giving everyone in our family elderberry juice and immune defense vitamins daily. We also have been praying a lot and trusting the Lord. If I were not pregnant I would probably not be quite as concerned.

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Nola November 10, 2009 at 11:30 am

Stephanie could you share where you found or what it is called for a hand sanitizer? All the ones I can find contain alcohol and other wierd ingredients. I don’t want to use it all the time- I agree with the problem of killing off all the bacteria being a bad thing- but there are many times when I cannot wash my hands and then have to eat, or something like that.

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Stephanie @ Keeper of the Home November 10, 2009 at 3:57 pm

@Nola, Nola, we’ve been using regular hand sanitizer for now, and reserve it only for those times when we just cannot wash our hands and I think it’s important. I don’t like the ingredients in it, either.

But, a commenter above left a link for a sanitizer called Cleanwell. I checked out the site and it looks like a really good alternative, so I think I’m going to order some!

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Mary November 9, 2009 at 8:43 pm

You may appreciate this innovative germ-prevention tip: There is a great program out called Germy Wormy that helps reinforce coughing and sneezing into the elbow (in a fun and natural way!). Before I went to the website, I always used my hands. Now I get it, hands touch, elbows don’t!! Kids can touch up to 300 surfaces in 1/2 an hour, and they hate to wash their hands. This is a simple thing that can make a huge difference. There is also an entertaining DVD that teaches kids how to do this and reinforces other important hygiene habits. It is such a positive lesson to be learned with this program, and its safe and drug-free!

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Casey November 9, 2009 at 8:10 pm
Stephanie @ Keeper of the Home November 10, 2009 at 3:56 pm

@Casey, Thanks for sharing the Dr. Tenpenny link! I heard her speak recently on the radio and was really impressed by the work that she has done looking into vaccines!

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Stephanie November 9, 2009 at 4:12 pm

Thanks for this great post Stephanie. I have been doing some research on natural prevention too. And Oil of Oregano..I just recently heard of this and it is one of the recommended supplements for the Chronic Mono that I have. I can’t wait to try it out!

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Andrea November 9, 2009 at 1:23 pm

Great information and resources. Thank you. I’d been hoping/waiting for you to post on this! It’s a little overwhelming trying to navigate all the inform/misinformation out there. I finally realized that for the most part, everyone is trying to do there best (in the healthcare system and natural health advocates) but humans beings are limited. God’s hand is here in the darkness of flu and He is sovereign and I need to trust that He will give me the wisdom to treat my family.

There is a real push for families with infants to get the vaccine. Do you know of any harmful effects passed on to the infant through breastmilk if a mother gets the vaccine? And is it safe to take oil of oregano while breastfeeding. It seems so potent.

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Stephanie @ Keeper of the Home November 10, 2009 at 3:55 pm

@Andrea, Andrea, I don’t know exactly how the vaccine is passed to a nursing infant through breastmilk. That would definitely be something to research! But generally almost everything a mother consumes or is exposed to makes it to her baby through her milk, so the question is really just what effect, not whether it will have an effect. And I just don’t know the answer to that.

And I would consider it safe to take Oil of Oregano while breastfeeding, but in a lower dose than you might otherwise. It is potent, for sure.

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Sheri November 9, 2009 at 1:22 pm

Thanks for the post and natural ideas. I am 13 weeks pregnant and am on the fence about getting the H1N1 vaccine. If I was not pregnant I would not be getting it. I have worries both ways; will the vaccine have harmful side effects for the baby, or will the baby get sick and possibly die if I do get the flu! That is a scary decision! I have known a lot of people who have gotten it so I know it is going around at my church and my son’s preschool. This makes me think that there is a good possibility that I could get it too.

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Stephanie @ Keeper of the Home November 10, 2009 at 3:53 pm

@Sheri, Sheri, I would avoid the vaccine, personally. I think that the likelihood of you both catching the flu, and having it severe enough to harm or kill your baby, is less likely than possible effects from the vaccine. Pregnancy is not the time to be taking vaccinations, especially so early on in pregnancy. I know others will disagree, but that would be my stance on it. I would just play it really safe this season, with where you go, who you’re exposed to, and really make sure to eat well and keep your immune system functioning as well as you can!

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Sarah November 9, 2009 at 11:55 am

great post! one I actually planned on doing myself soon! (just haven’t gotten around to it. we’re doing many of the same things. I made my own elderberry syrup! turned out great!! Also doing Probiotics chewables for the kids, vit. c, cod liver oil, etc…
btw-I read recently that supposedly Echinacea is the WRONG thing to take in conjunction with the H1N1… I need to read more, but I read this several places…. just thought I’d drop that in!
thanks for the great post!
.-= Sarah´s last blog ..Soapmaking =-.

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Stephanie @ Keeper of the Home November 10, 2009 at 3:51 pm

@Sarah, Thanks for that, Sarah. One other commenter said the same thing, so I’m going to do some more research on the use of Echinacea for this particular flu.

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Alisa November 9, 2009 at 10:52 am

Stephanie – Thanks for a great post! We aren’t vaccinating in our family either. I do believe that the drug companies are the only ones that are going to be benefitting from it.

Thanks for the info on the different supplements.

Alisa

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Beth November 9, 2009 at 10:32 am

Our boys had the flu last week. They were not tested nor given tamiflu. They had a mild case, compared to some. A fever, horrible body aches, congestion, cough etc. They both felt pretty horrible for 2 days but by day 4 their energy level were returning and their symptoms were subsiding.

We did not or will not get the vaccine, for the reasons that you mentioned. My husband and I share similar beliefs with you regarding this issue.

I do have to say that during the time our boys were sick our biggest concern was the information about the flu that we were given by our health care providers. During our week of the flu we saw and spoke with different doctors and nurses from our hospital and Pediatrician’s office. Each person said something different about the vaccine, the flu in general, the severity of the full etc. It was disheartening that we put our children’s lives, our lives in these people hands and yet they are not all on the same page.

I agree with you, we are not getting the whole truth. But I also wonder if anyone truly knows what the “truth” is!

Blessings

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Sarah M November 9, 2009 at 10:14 am

The flu has been ground around our church a lot, and we are in a community group that meets weekly also, with 8 children in it. 3 Out of the 8 have had the H1N1 and it spread to a few adults, also, including myself. I was knocked down with symptoms for 4 days and haven’t been that sick in probably 10 years. I am just thankful my 9 mo old & 2 year old didn’t get it, too!
I think the MOST important thing about the flu, H1N1 or season, OR just yucky fever or sickness in general for moms is to *please* keep your kiddos home when they are sick. Green mucus is a big sign of being contagious, and fever should be a no-brainer. Just because it gets in the way of your plans–it is not for everyone’s benefit. If parents kept sick kids (and themselves!) home, things wouldn’t spread as bad as they do…including this nasty flu.
Sarah M
.-= Sarah M´s last blog ..In Review: The Soloist =-.

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Stephanie @ Keeper of the Home November 10, 2009 at 3:51 pm

@Sarah M, Thanks for stressing that important point, Sarah! I completely agree that we should all be more responsible to just keep sick kids away from other kids. It’s common sense and it’s just being considerate!

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Greta @ Mom Living Healthy November 9, 2009 at 10:05 am

Thank you for this great overview! We are trying to do some of these things, but we could add a couple more steps to prevent the flu too.
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Amy November 9, 2009 at 10:04 am

Thanks for the post, Stephanie! I have been spending loads on elderberry syrup, so I am very excited to learn how to make my own!

Question for you- I am wanting to take oil of oregano but was reading that it can decrease your milk supply. Are you taking it while breastfeeding, and have you noticed any affect on your milk?

Thanks!!

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Stephanie @ Keeper of the Home November 10, 2009 at 3:50 pm

@Amy, Amy, I only take Oil of Oregano in moderation when breastfeeding, and really, only when I think I really need it (like my previous throat infection). So I haven’t noticed it affect my milk, but probably because I haven’t used it enough in that situation. If you do try taking it, start slow with low doses and keep a close eye on how your milk supply does. It’s not good to take too much of anything, especially something strong like Oil of Oregano, while nursing.

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Fruitful Harvest November 9, 2009 at 9:35 am

I don’t beleive in the vaccine either…but hubby thinks he does! Thank goodness there is none to be found and the dates and places to recieve the H1N1 have been canceled. My hubby has ashma so I think he really wants the vaccine!

I have had one of my 6 kiddos survive the Flu and 1 child upstairs now with the flu. I have been giving them a homiopathic remedy called Oscillococcinum made by Boiron in France. It seemed to lession the duration for my first child with the flu. So I have been using it for my second child.

The docors up here in WA state have said, that so far all the folks whom have been tested do have the H1N1……. but all the area pharmacies are out of Tamaflu!
So the best course of action is to just stay home as not to catch something else down at their office. No need to come in unless things get really bad health wise.

We have quarinteened the sick child to a room with lots to drink and a ton of novels on tape from the library to pass the time! So far the illness (fever) has only lasted 3 days!

Blessings,
Georgiann momma of 6
.-= Fruitful Harvest´s last blog ..Giveaway and Writing 101~ =-.

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Cynthia November 9, 2009 at 9:04 am

Thanks, Stephanie…. one question… do you happen to know of/use a type of tuna that does not contain a lot of mercury? Thanks!
God Bless,
Cynthia

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Stephanie @ Keeper of the Home November 10, 2009 at 3:48 pm

@Cynthia, Cynthia, I believe that if you go to EWG’s website and search for info on tuna or seafood, there have an article that lists the types of tuna and which ones are less risky. Personally, I just avoid tuna altogether because I am continually pregnant or breastfeeding and don’t want to take the risk. We eat salmon most of the time instead.

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The Cottage Comtesse November 9, 2009 at 8:53 am

I recently talked to two different doctors that take a natural approach to caring for patients. Both listed things you mentioned in your article, especially the vitamin D. In addition, one recommended Olive Leaf Extract (Seagate). It works a lot like the Oil of Oregano you mentioned, BUT, you can also purchase it in a nasal spray. This is great to kill anything that is inhaled through the nose – something we often forget and should be considered.

Thanks for a well balanced article on the swine flu.
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Sarah November 9, 2009 at 8:47 am

oops. three more things i mean.

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Sarah November 9, 2009 at 8:47 am

Sorryyyyy. Two more things…

1. The doctors are not testing for H1N1 out of hospital anymore, because the labs are overwhelmed, and because it is quite easy to diagnose in person. In my opinion it is better that they are not, because the labs take four days to come back, and the antivirals do not work after two days of symptoms. If every parent waited to get an official diagnosis before treating their child, the outcome could be terrible.

2. Every single credible epidemiologist agrees that vaccinating is the best route here. The WHO org, who has been cited over and over again on blogs like these re. their favorable beliefs in terms of breastfeeding, certain natural health remedies, treatments, etc. is desperately trying to impart how important this vaccine is. I urge everyone to check the information on all the national and international health care sites, and to realize that the conspiracy theories that are floating around are what are rather overblown, not the severity of the virus.

3. People are on about the metals in the vaccine as if they will do some permanent damage (all disproved scientifically re. autism,etc.) but the same people are ready to buy into/advocate natural heavy metal detoxes and stuff as effective as long as the metals were put into the body passively, environmentally, etc, ie. without going against the “code” of natural health care.

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Stephanie @ Keeper of the Home November 10, 2009 at 3:47 pm

@Sarah, Again, I appreciate the thoughts on the vaccine, and it’s most certainly important for all of us to do our own research before making a decision.

I’m not sure that I understand your 3rd point. I think the route of doing heavy metal detoxification shows just how concerned we are about even passively accumulated metals and why it’s so important to not only avoid them (ie. vaccines and other routes of exposure) but also to get them out of the body as quickly as possible!

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Sarah November 9, 2009 at 8:24 am

btw: we ended up being able to put our son on tamiflu because we took him in in the first 48 hrs of symptoms, and he was better within two days.

it’s great only to use home remedies for things that they are proven to work against, but this is a new virus. to me, it’s not worth the risk, and I, too, have done a lot of reading on both sides.

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Sarah November 9, 2009 at 8:21 am

I thought and followed all of this until my son caught it anyway and was waking up in the night unable to breathe and hallucinating after spending 24 hrs ravaged by wave after wave of fever. It’s really easy to be suspicious of the government about this when the vaccine is new and some calculated risks are needed in using it, but after what we just went through, we will be using it, and will be thankful for it. My son has never received any other vaccination, but because of the different strains that are out there, we are all getting this shot, including him.

Remember the “natural health care” industry, for which I work, has just as much of vested interest in getting your dollar as anyone else. Make sure to check the science on this one.

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Stephanie @ Keeper of the Home November 10, 2009 at 3:44 pm

@Sarah, Yes, Sarah, that’s definitely true about the natural health care industry having vested interests and biases. I agree!

I am not arguing at all that it is a nasty flu and something we most certainly want to avoid. I’m just not convinced on the merits of the vaccine yet, and especially cautious because of some health issues/pre-existing stuff in our own family. That said, thanks for sharing your point of view! I hope your son is doing much better now!

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alexis November 9, 2009 at 8:15 am

Stephanie: What a great post! Thanks so much for all the good tips. I am in 100% agreeance with you–we have no idea what the possible side effect/long-term effects of this vaccination may be. There’s no way that I am injecting something this sketchy into my own or my childrens’ bodies!
One question for you; Where can I buy elderberries? I have never seen them in the grocery or health food store. Any suggestions? Thanks.
.-= alexis´s last blog ..Making Your Home A Haven–Muffin Tin Lunches =-.

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Stephanie @ Keeper of the Home November 10, 2009 at 3:43 pm

@alexis, Alexis, I’m going to get mine from Mountain Rose Herbs. There’s a link to them up above on my right sidebar. They’re an excellent place to buy bulk herbs and tons of other things!

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JesLes November 9, 2009 at 7:49 am

I dont know about the States, but I know that in Canada the media seems to be backpedaling lately. They pushed this fear on us and now there are these all day line ups to get the shot. The news now has doctors on all the time saying it isnt as bad as you think…only people in target groups “need” the shot right away. I have heard no less than three doctors, on air mind, say that for most of us this will be a mild flu that has no harmful effects! If that doesnt convince you, then maybe StatsCan has said that 4,000-8,000 people die in Canada from the regular seasonal flu each year. Total number of Swine Flu deaths? Under 100. That, and the fact that 90% of those deaths had underlying/preexisting conditions tells me that my kids and I arent going to be getting the shot.

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Melissa November 9, 2009 at 7:26 am

PS—we use kefir for our smoothies as well as yogurt, so lots of great probiotics there!
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Melissa November 9, 2009 at 7:25 am

GREAT post! I’m going to link to it on my blog!

We juice and do green smoothies every day and take our elderberry extract too. I can’t wait to try this recipe you posted a link to! Thanks!

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April W November 9, 2009 at 7:23 am

Thank you so much for this info. I have been sick with swollen lymph nodes and fever and exhaustion for months and no one can figure out what is wrong with me. Even so they are pushing me to get the swine flu shot and I am just unsure what to do. It seems I could be in trouble if I get it due to something already wrong in my body and same the other way, I could not get it and be in trouble because of something else wrong in my body. I wish I knew what to do, but I do know that I have God and that is all I need. So I will try to boost my immune system and pray. love your site and spend much time reading your posts. Keep up the great work!
.-= April W´s last blog ..“Completely Candid” =-.

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Casey November 9, 2009 at 7:14 am

Great post, Stephanie!! You may want to research what is happening in the Ukraine right now (mainstream news is not covering this). Many people are very, very sick and many are dying. It looks like this flu may be recombining and things may get much worse around the globe as a result. That has been one concern with the nasal vaccine. Because it contains live vaccine and causes virus shedding, it is very likely that it will recombine with other flus.

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Stephanie @ Keeper of the Home November 10, 2009 at 3:42 pm

@Casey, And that’s one thing that worries me about the use of live vaccines… I’ll look into that. Thanks!

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Susie wankerl November 9, 2009 at 6:23 am

I have been working on an article like this for my own blog but hadn’t finished. You have covered pretty much everything that I have considered and similarly to mine. I will add that there is a hand sanitizer that I have been using for a couple of years now. I like it very much. It is herb-based, safe for children (which alcohol-based sanitizers are not) and very effective. It is called Cleanwell. Thyme is the active ingredient. They make a sanitizer spray in several sizes. I carry one in my purse and sometimes in my pocket. Because it is a spray, I have also used it at times to spray surfaces in public restrooms or on the handles of shopping carts. They also make sanitizer wipes, and a foam soap that I use this time of year. To read more about it, go to their website: http://www.cleanwelltoday.com/ It is available at my Target store, so I assume most Targets would have it, as well as from United Natural Foods, which is my buying club provider, AND http://vitacost.com also carries it.

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Stephanie @ Keeper of the Home November 10, 2009 at 3:41 pm

@Susie wankerl, Susie, thank you so much for that link to Cleanwell! I had been wanting to find a product just like it, so I’m really excited!

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Diane@Peaceful Acres November 9, 2009 at 6:15 am

Very good. I also did a post on H1N1 that you might find helpful. It’s been suggested to me by my Herbal teachers that for this particular flu it’s better to support the immune system rather than boosting or stimulating as with Echinacea.

http://butterfliesandbumblebees.org/?p=145
.-= Diane@Peaceful Acres´s last blog ..Animal Husbandry 101 =-.

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Stephanie @ Keeper of the Home November 10, 2009 at 3:41 pm

@Diane@Peaceful Acres, Thanks for that link, Diane. I’m really interested to read about why Echinacea might not be best, because I hadn’t come across that in my own studies so far. I’ll definitely look into it more!

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Amanda November 9, 2009 at 6:13 am

Thanks for the post. Over the past few years our eyes have been opened to taking a more natural approach when it comes to health issues. Recently we found homefirst.com and Dr. Mercola. I don’t agree with everything on their sites but have found a lot of useful info. Our family is big on vitamin D3 and Olive Leaf Extract. Two of my boys have recently had fevers with headaches but we were able to treat them at home with natural meds and they have recovered very well. I love your site… thanks for all the great information, I still have a lot to learn.

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Kelly November 9, 2009 at 6:10 am

I am not getting the H1N1 vaccine for my daughter either, although I did get the regular flu shot for her. My daughter seems to have caught every bug going around this year, and I am hoping we aren’t on the verge of another illness, though we may be.
The shower thing when you get home from being out in public…too funny. When I go to the gym in the morning, my daughter goes to the childcare, which I know is just a hotbed of germs. When we get home, I jump in the shower and bring her in with me. She loves to play with her “guys” (bath toys) while I soap up and she loves feeling like a big girl taking a shower. I know she is getting good and clean without dousing her in hand sanitizer (tho we do use a squirt as we leave the gym) and it cuts out the bath in the evening, so it saves us a step later in the day!
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1ofeach November 9, 2009 at 5:42 am

Thank you! I always enjoy hearing the voice of reason. We are approaching this the same way you are. I would like to know more about the homeopathics your MIL recommends. We do have Oscillococcinum on hand and have had much success w/ flu symptoms using this, but I like to keep my “arsenal” ready, so please share about these two homeopathic remedies!

I love your blog (it’s the only one I read) and have purchased both of your ebooks. :)

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Stephanie @ Keeper of the Home November 10, 2009 at 3:39 pm

@1ofeach, The homeopathics we are using are made by Professional Complementary Health Formulas in Oregon. We are using Flu Nosode (N13) and Hemagglutinin Neuraminidase (H1N1) Nosode (N14).

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1ofeach November 11, 2009 at 8:25 am

@Stephanie @ Keeper of the Home,
Thank you so much! I like how easy it is to see the responses you leave for us. Is this a new feature? :)

Oh, and I wanted to tell you something that’s on our list: rebouding. We’ve lived in very small places, but have made room for a rebounder (small trampoline) so our children can get exercise, but more importantly for the lymphatic flush that comes from rebounding. That’s part of our immune boosting routine too. Just wanted to let you know, in case you want to add that to your list.

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Stephanie @ Keeper of the Home November 11, 2009 at 10:56 am

@1ofeach, That’s a great suggestion! Exercise like that is really important, for sure! I would actually love to get a rebounder as we just don’t get nearly enough exercise in the winter and the kids would adore it.

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Crissie November 9, 2009 at 5:34 am

Stephanie – what timely advice. Being a full time college student and mother of 5, I have been trying to be very vigilant about keeping the swine flu from infecting my family – very hard to do on a college campus where it’s been running rampant. We have been using more than our fair share of hand sanitizer this year, which normally I don’t advocate, but I’ve been alarmed at how many healthy children this flu has been claiming. I agree with you in that I believe some of the statistics behind the push to vaccinate are skewed to benefit the pharmaceutical companies, but I have two friends whose healthy children have died from pneumonia resulting from the swine flu – a 4 year old and a 7 year old.

Because my children are homeschooled and I have the ability to keep them at home during an outbreak like this, I decided against vaccinating most of them. However, when it came to our 6 year old asthmatic, after prayerful consideration we decided to vaccinate him. It is such a difficult decision for parents to make though. I was very concerned about side effects from the vaccination (children with pre-existing conditions can’t receive the nasal mist because it is a live virus), but I was more concerned about what catching the flu would likely mean for his lungs.

Thank you for taking the time to write up such an articulate post about what we can do to protect our other children.

xoxo

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Kelly November 9, 2009 at 6:11 am

@sakki,

This doesn’t seem an appropriate place to post this!
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Stephanie @ Keeper of the Home November 10, 2009 at 3:40 pm

@Kelly, Thanks for catching that, Kelly! The comment in question has been deleted!

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