Comments on: Nutritional Foundations- Making the best of the regular grocery store, Part 3 http://www.keeperofthehome.org/2008/09/nutritional-foundations-making-the-best-of-the-regular-grocery-store-part-3.html Naturally inspired living for the Christian homemaker Fri, 10 Feb 2012 02:34:36 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Registered Dietitianhttp://www.keeperofthehome.org/2008/09/nutritional-foundations-making-the-best-of-the-regular-grocery-store-part-3.html/comment-page-1#comment-67939 Registered Dietitian Thu, 08 Sep 2011 23:58:13 +0000 http://www.keeperofthehome.org/2008/09/nutritional-foundations-making-the-best-of-the-regular-grocery-store-part-3.html#comment-67939 I am curious to know the source of your information. Especially the information on raw milk consumption, specifically, "promotes pathogens and is associated with allergies, increased tooth decay, colic in infants, growth problems in children, osteoporosis, arthritis, heart disease and cancer." Could you please name the pathogens it PROMOTES? How does pasteurizaion specifically increase osteoporosis, tooth decay, and allergies? I am just very curious to read this peer-reviewed journal article. I am additionally interested in reading the source leading to the statment that homogenization commonly leads to heart disease. While raw milk consumption may not be harmful, it saddens me when information that contains so many fallacies is presented to the public by people who may have the best of intentions, but no background in nutrition, food science, food safety, microbiology, or biochemistry. This MISinformation is why eating healthy and natural is so confusing for people trying to live a healthy lifestyle, provide food sources that are optimal for their family, and also avoid harmful additives that are commonly found in our food supply, including preservatives, hormones, emulsifiers etc. I completely advocate for trying to eat a natural and organic diet, but making false claims that have no basis in evidence-based research or practice is unethical. As a registered dietitian, I devote my life to educating anyone and everyone on the benefits of a healthy, natural, and even organic diet free of harmful additives. I am a Christian as well, and I pray for those individuals that struggle with finding a way to feed their family in the most healthful way in a world bombarded with misinformtion heresay. I am curious to know the source of your information. Especially the information on raw milk consumption, specifically, "promotes pathogens and is associated with allergies, increased tooth decay, colic in infants, growth problems in children, osteoporosis, arthritis, heart disease and cancer." Could you please name the pathogens it PROMOTES? How does pasteurizaion specifically increase osteoporosis, tooth decay, and allergies? I am just very curious to read this peer-reviewed journal article. I am additionally interested in reading the source leading to the statment that homogenization commonly leads to heart disease. While raw milk consumption may not be harmful, it saddens me when information that contains so many fallacies is presented to the public by people who may have the best of intentions, but no background in nutrition, food science, food safety, microbiology, or biochemistry. This MISinformation is why eating healthy and natural is so confusing for people trying to live a healthy lifestyle, provide food sources that are optimal for their family, and also avoid harmful additives that are commonly found in our food supply, including preservatives, hormones, emulsifiers etc. I completely advocate for trying to eat a natural and organic diet, but making false claims that have no basis in evidence-based research or practice is unethical. As a registered dietitian, I devote my life to educating anyone and everyone on the benefits of a healthy, natural, and even organic diet free of harmful additives. I am a Christian as well, and I pray for those individuals that struggle with finding a way to feed their family in the most healthful way in a world bombarded with misinformtion heresay.

]]> By: Real Food Makeover- The Anderson Family, Pt 2 | Keeper of the Homehttp://www.keeperofthehome.org/2008/09/nutritional-foundations-making-the-best-of-the-regular-grocery-store-part-3.html/comment-page-1#comment-62612 Real Food Makeover- The Anderson Family, Pt 2 | Keeper of the Home Wed, 29 Jun 2011 03:52:55 +0000 http://www.keeperofthehome.org/2008/09/nutritional-foundations-making-the-best-of-the-regular-grocery-store-part-3.html#comment-62612 [...] Milk with raw, grass-fed milk [...] [...] Milk with raw, grass-fed milk [...]

]]> By: Lorriehttp://www.keeperofthehome.org/2008/09/nutritional-foundations-making-the-best-of-the-regular-grocery-store-part-3.html/comment-page-1#comment-23587 Lorrie Sat, 21 Mar 2009 02:18:03 +0000 http://www.keeperofthehome.org/2008/09/nutritional-foundations-making-the-best-of-the-regular-grocery-store-part-3.html#comment-23587 Thank you for the information on dairy. This week I finally found raw milk at an Amish diary for $2.50 a gallon!! That is less then traditional milk. The only problem is that I am very nervous to let the kids drink it. I have been raised by a nurse mother who is convinced that raw milk is very dangerous. I know it is better, but it is so hard to let go of the things I have been told for 28 years. Is it truely safe to use? My father-in-law was raised on a dairy farm and said he grew up drinking milk straight from the cow. How common is food poisoning from drinking raw milk. Thank you for the information on dairy. This week I finally found raw milk at an Amish diary for $2.50 a gallon!! That is less then traditional milk. The only problem is that I am very nervous to let the kids drink it. I have been raised by a nurse mother who is convinced that raw milk is very dangerous. I know it is better, but it is so hard to let go of the things I have been told for 28 years. Is it truely safe to use? My father-in-law was raised on a dairy farm and said he grew up drinking milk straight from the cow. How common is food poisoning from drinking raw milk.

]]> By: Lindsay @ Passionate Homemakinghttp://www.keeperofthehome.org/2008/09/nutritional-foundations-making-the-best-of-the-regular-grocery-store-part-3.html/comment-page-1#comment-23586 Lindsay @ Passionate Homemaking Fri, 12 Sep 2008 04:09:26 +0000 http://www.keeperofthehome.org/2008/09/nutritional-foundations-making-the-best-of-the-regular-grocery-store-part-3.html#comment-23586 Very thorough coverage of this topic. I will be linking to your post soon as I was wanting to discuss this very thing. I would recommend that quality coconut milk is the best option beyond raw cow or goat's milk, because even organic milk has been pasteurized or often times even ultra-pasteurized in addition to be being homogenized. Very thorough coverage of this topic. I will be linking to your post soon as I was wanting to discuss this very thing. I would recommend that quality coconut milk is the best option beyond raw cow or goat's milk, because even organic milk has been pasteurized or often times even ultra-pasteurized in addition to be being homogenized.

]]> By: jodeanhttp://www.keeperofthehome.org/2008/09/nutritional-foundations-making-the-best-of-the-regular-grocery-store-part-3.html/comment-page-1#comment-23585 jodean Thu, 11 Sep 2008 14:55:12 +0000 http://www.keeperofthehome.org/2008/09/nutritional-foundations-making-the-best-of-the-regular-grocery-store-part-3.html#comment-23585 Great post! I know I drink more pasturized/homogenized milk than I should, but I just love milk and haven't been able to find a reasonably-priced alternative around here. It is something I have been thinking a lot more about now that I am pregnant though... The plan is to someday have a dairy goat when we are able to move out of town (We already have chickens in the backyard, but I do think the neighbors might object to a goat:-) I have always used real butter and can't image why anyone wouldn't. It is soooooo much tastier than margerine. Yuck! And I always figured when in doubt, go for the least processed, most natural option. To anyone who might still be considering soy milk as an alternative, please do your research... Soy has been found to be a mild thyroid supressant and is NOT recommended for those of us with a thyroid disorders or a family history of thyroid problems. Great post!

I know I drink more pasturized/homogenized milk than I should, but I just love milk and haven't been able to find a reasonably-priced alternative around here. It is something I have been thinking a lot more about now that I am pregnant though... The plan is to someday have a dairy goat when we are able to move out of town (We already have chickens in the backyard, but I do think the neighbors might object to a goat:-)

I have always used real butter and can't image why anyone wouldn't. It is soooooo much tastier than margerine. Yuck! And I always figured when in doubt, go for the least processed, most natural option.

To anyone who might still be considering soy milk as an alternative, please do your research... Soy has been found to be a mild thyroid supressant and is NOT recommended for those of us with a thyroid disorders or a family history of thyroid problems.

]]> By: joyful mamahttp://www.keeperofthehome.org/2008/09/nutritional-foundations-making-the-best-of-the-regular-grocery-store-part-3.html/comment-page-1#comment-23584 joyful mama Thu, 11 Sep 2008 12:41:58 +0000 http://www.keeperofthehome.org/2008/09/nutritional-foundations-making-the-best-of-the-regular-grocery-store-part-3.html#comment-23584 Thank you for this wonderful post!!!! I found it interesting that you could use the past. milk, as I often find it at the discount store.....I will have to try this with my next kefir batch.... Thanks again.... Thank you for this wonderful post!!!! I found it interesting that you could use the past. milk, as I often find it at the discount store.....I will have to try this with my next kefir batch....
Thanks again....

]]> By: sarahhttp://www.keeperofthehome.org/2008/09/nutritional-foundations-making-the-best-of-the-regular-grocery-store-part-3.html/comment-page-1#comment-23583 sarah Thu, 11 Sep 2008 08:08:04 +0000 http://www.keeperofthehome.org/2008/09/nutritional-foundations-making-the-best-of-the-regular-grocery-store-part-3.html#comment-23583 I have a question, actually several. We live overseas and cannot get raw milk (it's illegal). My husband likes milk in his coffee. Is cream a better option, even if it's pasteurized? Also, is normal butter ok, even if it's not organic? Is it ok to eat yogurt I have made from store-bought pasteurized milk? I really appreciate your site and all the information you give. I can't do everything yet, but little by little I hope to incorporate much of what you talk about here. Oh, one more question on a different topic--aside from meat, what is a good source of iron for babies? My 7 month old is eating some fruits and veggies, but I'm not sure how to incorporate broth and/or meat into his diet. (I know you use liver, but I would not consider that due to the quality of meat here.) Thanks again for all your help! I have a question, actually several. We live overseas and cannot get raw milk (it's illegal). My husband likes milk in his coffee. Is cream a better option, even if it's pasteurized? Also, is normal butter ok, even if it's not organic? Is it ok to eat yogurt I have made from store-bought pasteurized milk? I really appreciate your site and all the information you give. I can't do everything yet, but little by little I hope to incorporate much of what you talk about here. Oh, one more question on a different topic--aside from meat, what is a good source of iron for babies? My 7 month old is eating some fruits and veggies, but I'm not sure how to incorporate broth and/or meat into his diet. (I know you use liver, but I would not consider that due to the quality of meat here.) Thanks again for all your help!

]]> By: mom24http://www.keeperofthehome.org/2008/09/nutritional-foundations-making-the-best-of-the-regular-grocery-store-part-3.html/comment-page-1#comment-23582 mom24 Thu, 11 Sep 2008 00:33:23 +0000 http://www.keeperofthehome.org/2008/09/nutritional-foundations-making-the-best-of-the-regular-grocery-store-part-3.html#comment-23582 Michelle - we use raw goat's milk instead of cow. Our kids have some sensitivity to cow milk so we only use butter and fermented cow dairy. But the goat's milk is supposed to have a protein that is easier to digest as well as good fat content. S if you have access, go with it! It's way better than pastuerized cow milk. Jennifer - have you tried goat milk for your kids' allergies? Are they true allergies or just digestive sensitivities? I've found with mine that they were sensitive to cow milk but ok to drink Goat milk. I agree that the nuts milks are better than the soy (but do your own research - Stephanie has a good link). This is a great post - very informative! I hope that some who are nervous about raw milk can do the research and see how safe it really is! The benefits are immense and I could NEVER drink the store stuff again. Thanks Stephanie! Michelle - we use raw goat's milk instead of cow. Our kids have some sensitivity to cow milk so we only use butter and fermented cow dairy. But the goat's milk is supposed to have a protein that is easier to digest as well as good fat content. S if you have access, go with it! It's way better than pastuerized cow milk.
Jennifer - have you tried goat milk for your kids' allergies? Are they true allergies or just digestive sensitivities? I've found with mine that they were sensitive to cow milk but ok to drink Goat milk. I agree that the nuts milks are better than the soy (but do your own research - Stephanie has a good link).
This is a great post - very informative! I hope that some who are nervous about raw milk can do the research and see how safe it really is! The benefits are immense and I could NEVER drink the store stuff again. Thanks Stephanie!

]]> By: Stephaniehttp://www.keeperofthehome.org/2008/09/nutritional-foundations-making-the-best-of-the-regular-grocery-store-part-3.html/comment-page-1#comment-23581 Stephanie Wed, 10 Sep 2008 23:53:01 +0000 http://www.keeperofthehome.org/2008/09/nutritional-foundations-making-the-best-of-the-regular-grocery-store-part-3.html#comment-23581 Melissa, I can understand your concern about the price- it's very pricey for us, too. Because I'm really convinced about the health benefits, I've made the sacrifice in our budget to do it and I'm glad that I did. As far as the bacteria concerns, my husband was concerned about that so I've looked into it a fair bit. Check out my post on the safety of raw milk: http://www.keeperofthehome.org/2008/01/is-raw-milk-rea.html Faith, in my grocery store the clearance milk is with the other milk, and they put a 1/2 price sticker on it (it's bright pink, so it's hard to miss!). I've seen the same thing in some other stores. However, some places put their discounted dairy in an area slightly away from where it usually would be- try asking a store clerk if they discount dairy and where it is located. Also, your store may not discount it, but I've found over and over again that if I find milk near expiry, and find a staff member to politely ask, they will discount it just for me. It's always worth it to ask! M, I don't know much about hemp milk and it's nutritional value, but thanks for adding that option in. I'll have to look into it! Alison, that sounds so yummy! I haven't tried it, though I've made my own (but it's just not the same as store bought, so I was disappointed). Maybe I'll get some while I'm down in Seattle! Jennifer, I can totally understand how much harder allergies make it! We've dealt with our fair share of allergies as well. Have you considered using almond milk, or is your daughter allergic to nuts as well? Almond milk has good calcium and protein, plus some fats as well. If she can't have nuts, I would personally steer clear of the soy and stick to a good rice milk instead. Allergies like those are tough, so good for you to do your best to find good alternatives! :) Melissa, I can understand your concern about the price- it's very pricey for us, too. Because I'm really convinced about the health benefits, I've made the sacrifice in our budget to do it and I'm glad that I did. As far as the bacteria concerns, my husband was concerned about that so I've looked into it a fair bit. Check out my post on the safety of raw milk:
http://www.keeperofthehome.org/2008/01/is-raw-milk-rea.html

Faith, in my grocery store the clearance milk is with the other milk, and they put a 1/2 price sticker on it (it's bright pink, so it's hard to miss!). I've seen the same thing in some other stores. However, some places put their discounted dairy in an area slightly away from where it usually would be- try asking a store clerk if they discount dairy and where it is located. Also, your store may not discount it, but I've found over and over again that if I find milk near expiry, and find a staff member to politely ask, they will discount it just for me. It's always worth it to ask!

M, I don't know much about hemp milk and it's nutritional value, but thanks for adding that option in. I'll have to look into it!

Alison, that sounds so yummy! I haven't tried it, though I've made my own (but it's just not the same as store bought, so I was disappointed). Maybe I'll get some while I'm down in Seattle!

Jennifer, I can totally understand how much harder allergies make it! We've dealt with our fair share of allergies as well. Have you considered using almond milk, or is your daughter allergic to nuts as well? Almond milk has good calcium and protein, plus some fats as well. If she can't have nuts, I would personally steer clear of the soy and stick to a good rice milk instead. Allergies like those are tough, so good for you to do your best to find good alternatives! :)

]]> By: Jenniferhttp://www.keeperofthehome.org/2008/09/nutritional-foundations-making-the-best-of-the-regular-grocery-store-part-3.html/comment-page-1#comment-23580 Jennifer Wed, 10 Sep 2008 23:22:54 +0000 http://www.keeperofthehome.org/2008/09/nutritional-foundations-making-the-best-of-the-regular-grocery-store-part-3.html#comment-23580 I like this series. My problem is my dd who is 7 has a dairy, egg and beef allergy. So as for options for her to drink and use in baking and on cereal my only 2 really are rice milk and soy milk. The rice milk I buy is fortified with stuff that she doesn't get enough of due to her food allergies. It is just really hard to find a good alternative to getting her calcium, protein, omega-3 nutrients, etc when dealing with her allergies. I am just happy that she will drink 1 cup of soy milk each day. I like this series. My problem is my dd who is 7 has a dairy, egg and beef allergy. So as for options for her to drink and use in baking and on cereal my only 2 really are rice milk and soy milk. The rice milk I buy is fortified with stuff that she doesn't get enough of due to her food allergies. It is just really hard to find a good alternative to getting her calcium, protein, omega-3 nutrients, etc when dealing with her allergies. I am just happy that she will drink 1 cup of soy milk each day.

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